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united states. without more awareness it's a big strike against this country. the justice department cites some 300,000 american youth are at risk of becoming victims. the recent fbi sweep we've been reporting is part of a much larger effort called the innocence lost national initiative that's rescued 1275 children from the streets and led to 625 convictions to date. what this tells us is child prostitution is not just a scourge in pour countries. it's happening right here in this country. we as a society need to be much more aware of the problem to combat it. that's my "xyz." brooke baldwin takes over from here. just two days ago, a mother got some devastating news about her only son, that he was beaten to death at a party. and now as she's grieving she's trying to figure out what happened and why. she'll join me live on set in 60 seconds.
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a jury convicted steven hayes for killing a mother and her two daughters inside their own home. now one of the jurors who sentenced him to die will join me live. i'll also talk to the grieving family. and a seven-day cruise turns into a two-day nightmare. no power, no air conditioning. no hot food. no phone service. even the toilets wouldn't flush. how did this happen? teargas, molotov cocktails and homemade bombs. colombia's economic tensions exploding on the streets of bogota. we have new developments this hour in the investigation -- in the heart wrenching investigation of a house party that took a tragic turn just over this past weekend. this whole thing happened in a suburban atlanta home saturday night and early sunday morning.
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essentially ten teenagers were invited to the party. parents were there. but what ended up happening was far more showed up. a fight broke out. and when the chaos cleared, an 18-year-old named bobby tillman lay dead, brutally stomped to death, beaten so badly, so terribly that according to local reports we're just now getting, one of his bones punctured his heart. bobby tillman's mother left to cope with the loss of her only son. here she is. >> he was my best friend. he was a child of god. he was very loving. he was an angel here on earth. and i was blessed to be his mother. >> that was no nek rivard. we just found out she got an unexpected visitor, a knock on her door. a local politician wanted to talk to her about her son and about possibly passing some kind
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of law. so perhaps something this horrific never happens again. i'll ask her about that conversation and of course get her to share her story. and she has a message for parents. we all need to listen to that. that should happen anymore. we're watching the doosh for her to walk through it. meantime, another story res natding with a lot of you. you've been on a cruise ship. imagine you've got the pina colada in one hand on the cruise ship headed to the mexican rivera for the seven day vacation and suddenly this fire in the engine room breaks out. no power, no air conditioning, no working toilets, no hot food among other things. so that ship is apparently still strappeded off the coast of western mexico. chad myers has been watching this whole thing joining me with some of the details. at least the update we have at this point in time that auxiliary power is back on. at least that means what? >> toiletts flushing cold water
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in the room? are you a cruiser? >> wishy-washy on the cruise. >> i've been on dozens and really enjoy it. i have pants that expand because i know what happen -- >> because of all the food. >> yeah. but anyway, the story here is that there was a fire in the engine room yesterday morning and they reported it to the coast guard saying we have a fire and it's out. but they have no power. not only power to the ships but power to the engines. so they were unable to move. it's called dead in the water. >> dead in the we're, stuck, stranded. >> right. then cutters went out, coast guards went out. now tugboats are there, going to try to drag this ship back into enls gnatta. >> when we say drag that's 5 miles an hour drag. this is barely faster than drifting along. >> and we're about 55 to 60 miles out to sea and the boat -- when a ship loses power and stops moving, the planers that keep the boat from doing this all night long don't do anything anymore because you're not
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planing through the boat and stabilizing it. then the boat turns itself to the waves and the boat goes back and forth all night long. and hopefully you've had your dramamine but otherwise this boat -- it was on its way to a pleasant cruise. it wasn't a big cruise. it was seven days. it was going to go up and down the west coast. there it is, the carnival "splendor." built in italy. built in 2008. >> thing is brand spanking new. >> yeah. you wouldn't think you would have this kind of a problem. there could be user error or any mechanical issue. what they know now at least is that the fire was big enough to put a dent in the operation systems because the boat is a diesel-powered boat. but the diesel generators generate electricity to run electric power out the back of the boat. kind of like a train. the train doms the same kind of thing. here's what the boat was supposed to do. leave long beach, come all the way down on a two-day cruise.
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fun day at sea here, fun day at sea, land at mazatlan and then go to purtd vallarta and cabo san lucas and travel and go back up to long beach. it is stuck right there about 200 or so miles from san diego. they're not going to drag it to san diego but to ensenada and let the people off. it's too far out to put everybody in the lifeboats. >> that was my question. 3300 passengers and 1100 crew members. this is a big honking ship. i was curious whether they would get the passengers off. >> no. those little things called tender they could take them there but that's a very long trip in a tender. so they're going to drag the boat all the people at the same time into harbor, the tugboats can get it in to harbor as well as the guy with a joy stick. these are almost fly by wire. they're almost easier to maneuver now than a plane. you have a joy stick, forward,
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left and right. this boat could literally go sideways when there's power. can't do it now. >> bottom line eta? >> i think at least 12 hours and maybe more. if you have said fife knots i would say that's a pretty good way to tug this. it may be two to three knots. multiply that by 60 miles and all of a sudden you have a day. >> imagine that. those poor folks. 3300 people plus crew. thank you. i had promised we would be speaking with bobby tillman's mother. i'm looking just over to my right if you can see that way she's heading my way. this is monique rivard and we'll speak to her about her son. this is such fresh news for her. this is just over two days but she has a message for parents and good enough to join me in the studio. we'll speak with her next. is why i'm really excited. because toyota developed this software that can simulate head injuries and helps make people safer.
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all right. this is a story that all parents especially if you have a teenager you need to listen up and listen closely. this could happen in any city and involve any family. but this time it happened at a home in a middle class suburb of atlanta. you had ten teen teenagers invited to this party. dozens end up showing up. so a girl fight -- some kind of girl fight breaks out. a young man gets hit, so he can't apparently bring himself to hit a girl. so what does he do? he says he's going to strike at the next man who walks by. and that young man just so happens to be 18-year-old bobby tillman. a total of four young men are charged with brutally stomping
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and beating tillman to death. and bobby tillman's mother is left to cope with the loss of her only son. listen. >> he was my best friend. he was a child of god. he was very loving. he was an angel here on earth and i was blessed to be his mother. >> bobby tillman's mother monique rivarde is in. my condolences from myself and our entire team at cnn. we're so struck by this story. there are several different stories circulating as to what happened saturday night in the wee hours of sunday morning. i want you to tell me the story that you know. >> i've heard dozens of stories about what happened to my son. i'm not completely sure which one to believe. and i was advised by the d.a. just to wait for him to inform me that they're gathering that evidence right now as we speak, i'm sure, and they're getting to the bottom of everything and they'll have all the facts of
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what happened to my son that night for me. >> fact in terms of saturday night? >> yeah, saturday night. >> and also, though, the fact is the last time you spoke with your son was -- >> saturday night. the last time i heard from my son, i sent him a text. i changed his laptop screen saver to like some trees with flowers and things. and i took a picture -- my daughter took a picture and sent it to him. and he was like not cool, mom, put lebron james back. that was the last text at 8:22 p.m. saturday. sometime after that what happened to him did. >> and what happened was he's at this party -- >> he was -- well, i received a call from one of his best friends. actually, my daughter did. i texted him because he usually -- bobby was very good with letting me nor where he was, when he was on the way home. he had a 2:00 a.m. curfew. >> he was responsible. >> >> absolutely. i had no reason not to trust my son.
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but i hadn't heard from him and it was a quarter to 2:00 and we had the extra hour because the time change. i said let me text him to make sure he's fine and he's safe. i didn't hear back. so i called him because he's prompt. like if i text especially at that time he's like, mom, i'm okay. i'm on the way home or getting in the car. i kaud him four times and he didn't answer. i thought maybe he's driving. i didn't want to think negative. >> but your motherly intuition alarm bells were ringing? >> yes. >> so ultimately somehow you decide to call 911? >> well, his friend -- as i'm calling him, his friend called on my daughter's cell phone and said, i need to speak with your mom. i get on the phone. he said, mississippi monique, bobby was jumped and he's in critical condition. i said wrms my son? where is this party? is he on the hospital? is he on the ground? where is he? he was like, ma'am, i don't know. i didn't go to the party. someone called me. so i hung up. i called 911 and said my name is monique rivarde. my son is bobby tillman.
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i was just told that he was jumped or beat up really badly at a party. i just want to see if someone called in this situation and also is he at the hospital? so while they had me on hold i asked my mom to go to the emergency room in douglasville. >> your mom is headed to the hospital. meantime you decide -- >> to go to his friend's -- i'm on the phone but i'm going to the friend's house that he went with to see if they're home. if they are where's my son. in the midst of me traveling to their home or to their -- trying to find them, i got a call from the investigator. and he said -- >> did he tell you over the phone? >> no. no, no, no. it was actually maybe his assistant or someone that worked with him. she said that an investigator wanted to speak with me. and i said why. ? she said they just want to speak with you about my son. i said, i'm on the phone now. tell me now unless you know something about my son that you're not telling me. and she said, well, the investigator would prefer to tell you.
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so i pulled over and i waited ten minutes. he was supposed to meet me. he didn't show. i said, look, i have to go home. my mom is at the hospital. she knows bobby is there p p i need to go home and wait to hear back from my mom. >> when did you find out? >> when the investigator came to my house? >> do you remember that moment? >> yes. he walked in. and he said, there was a fight. and i said is my son at the hospital? he said yes. and i said, is he alive? and he said, no, ma'am, he died from blunt force trauma and he died instantly. and i just started crying. and he said, ma'am, let me tell you, we picked up over 60 children from that party and everyone that we interviewed told me that your son did not provoke a thing, that he was such a good guy that he did nothing. and he said, we have three suspects and we are in the midst of looking for the fourth right now as i'm talking with you. >> we heard that it was a party of ten, ended up multiplying. this whole thing happened in the front yard absolutely
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unprovoked, absolutely senseless. if i can we have sounds from the sheriff, sheriff miller, who talks about what happened in this moment before your son was murdered. let's listen. >> all right. >> one made the statement that they were going to beat up the next guy that showed up and this 5'6", 125 pound 18-year-old kid with braces happened to come by. they beat him down on the ground and stomped him and killed him. >> brought him on the ground, stomped him and killed him. i mean, totally unprovoked. it was a good child. >> yes. >> a good young man, your best friend. >> yes. he was an angel here on earth. >> how are you sitting here so composed with me? >> because my son was strong. bobby was a man. he was 18. he was all of five foot -- he said seven. and he was small in stature, but his heart and his spirit and his strength was bigger to me than this world. and i know he would want me to
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be strong for him. >> and you are being strong. and i know one of the questions you're asking is why. but another question so many people are asking is there were 57 witnesses. is there a part of you that's angry -- >> absolutely. >> -- that no one stepped in? >> i think that's a question i'll go to my grave with. why didn't anyone help my son? i don't understand and i don't know -- i wasn't there. so i can't say. but i just don't understand. to me it's a form of bullying. my son was bullied by four cowards. and it just has to stop. and i know these kids are in fear because they're like, if i step in, maybe this will happen to me. but if four children would have helped, it not only would have stopped them from killing my son, but then their sense of strength -- >> you wouldn't be sitting here. >> absolutely. >> i know you have a message for parents and exactly why you're giving me the time of day to sit with me and tell this story. if you can hold the thought, let's go to break and bring you
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welcome back to the "newsroom." monique rivarde, bobby tillman's mother, the young man stomped to death at a teen party simply because he happened to walk through that door at the wrong point in time. if that is an understatement, i don't know what is it we're looking at pictures, a makeshift memorial at the house where he died. you and i have not been able to stop talking through this break because you were telling me how you lost your father two years ago and bobby became the man of the house. you're a single mother. to have this happen, you're sitting with me because you have a message to parents and the message is what? >> my message is let's start from the root.
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to me, bobby is the end result. a death is the end result. we need to stop it before it even gets there. i want a law passed -- these guys. i want them to go away forever. but let's stop it before it even gets to that, before it gets to death. my son died from bullying. if we can stop it before it gets there and help these children. it was rage. it was jealousy. it was pride. all these things in these boys to make them want to stomp my son and kill him, that's outrageous. how can someone have so much of that inside of them? especially someone not even 21 yet. so they've lived only that long and have so much of that built up that they had to stomp my child. it has to be stopped before -- not once they're caught because we can put everyone in jail. but before you know what i mean. >> i saw the look in your eyes. roger, if we can pull up the video once again, the memorial at that home. i saw a look in your eyes you had not seen the pictures yet. >> no.
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>> you had not seen the memorial. so here it is. >> yes. >> you're looking at these signs for the first time. young man, your death was not the end. >> yes. i haven't been watching the news. i haven't been doing anything. and it's just beautiful that everyone is pouring out all this love for bobby. >> you had to change the church as you're having to go through the motions and make these funeral arrangements. you had to change it to a larger church because of the outpouring of support. >> yes. >> talk to me about the fund. >> we established a fund. today it's settled and final. it's called the bobby tillman fund. it's through bank of america. and we have been called or contacted with so many people wanting to contribute in some type of way. they wanted to give flowers or anything. we're just asking like if they do, just to give money to his fund because this fund is going to help -- we want to help children bobby's age or younger to stop with the rage or just whatever they're feeling to
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where they have to bully and they have to hurt or take it out on someone else. let's see what it is so it can be helped and then it will help another child and another one and another one and they won't end up and go through what my son did. >> you are so strong and so put together sitting here in front of me. it's just one of the situations you think as a parent i'm not supposed to be burying my child. it's supposed to be the other way around. >> absolutely. i never thought -- my sister has been handling everything. i don't even -- i didn't know step one. i've never in my life imagined -- this is the worst time in my life. this will be the worst time of my life. i never thought i would have to bury my child, never. i never thought that. >> monique rivarde, i'm sorry to -- i'm sorry for your loss. i'm sorry for your son. he is an amazing young man full of strength. he'd be proud. monique, thank you. we'll be right back.
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as you know, the president is out of the country and congress is taking a bit of a break. so for our political fix today we're headed to california to touch base with this guy. take a look. arnold schwarzenegger, that's who we're looking at today, serving out his final weeks as governor of the biggest state in the union and he popped in -- there he is on "the tonight show," jay leno, where he announced his candidacy seven years ago. jessica yellin is our national political correspondent and she is in california. jessica, good to see you. let's first just listen to a little bit. this is governor schwarzenegger talking about the midterm
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election and kinds of assessing the current political scene. let's listen. >> people screaming on one side we shouldn't spend any more money and the other side, spend all the money in the world, the other side was screaming, hey, let's go into iraq and continue with the war and afghanistan and the other side, no, let's pull out of iraq. people that were against having sex with themselves and then there were people that want to have sex with everybody. so all of the extreme things. it was wacky the whole thing. >> kind of an interesting take on some things, ms. yelin but i kind of think his act has worn a bit thin with california? >> reporter: yeah. he can get away with saying some things that i think just about no other politician codd could but you are right. when he came into office there was all this hope and he promised to do things differently. right now his approval rating just 22% of californians approve of the job he's doing as governor.
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that's his favorability. 70% disapprove. here are some of the harsh realities. there's a $19 billion budget hole in california, the most outstanding deficit in the nation. and the state borrowing more than $44 million a day just for unemployment benefits. and the unemployment rate here is more than 12%. so californians are struggling and that's something governor schwarzenegger acknowledged on "the tonight show" as well. let's listen to that for a minute. >> i have to say that i'm sad about the fact that we had a second -- during my term, a second decline economic because no matter how much i brag about what we have accomplished, it is horrible when you see so many people unemployed, so many people losing their homes, so many people suffering. businesses closing down and all of those kind of things. so i hope that democrats and republicans get together and bring back the jobs and bring back the economy as quick as possible because there's just
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too many people that are hurt. >> reporter: brooke, another reminder that it is -- governing, as another person in the news george bush used to say whereby hard work. it's hard work and maybe more of a challenge than maybe he expected when he got the job. >> on his way out you mentioned his disapproval rating 70%. how will california look back at him, a second hollywood president, the first being ronald reagan. >> reporter: ronald reagan. he inherited a very, very difficult budget. that's the reality a lot of politicians are dealing with right now. they couldn't do what their positive agenda was. they had to deal with the negative reality of the budget. he did promise to be different and bring republicans and democrats together and he really wasn't able to do that very often. he got a couple of initiatives he backed and pushed forward especially on the environment and also redistricting. he turned smoking marijuana in the state from a major crime to almost not illegal. it's no longer even a
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misdemeanor to smoke a joint in this state. but people will book back and say he wasn't able to accomplish a lot of what he promised. he was a new kind of republican but challenging times. sounds familiar like other politicians these days. >> indeed. inheriting the deficit. we've heard that before. jess yelin for us in l.a. did you see what happened off the coast of california last night? it's a beautiful picture. what is it? someone launched a mysterious missile and no one seems to know a think about it. not even the pentagon. hmm. that's next. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 that i didn't even understand -- i was so naive. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 i mean, i still need help. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 but not from some guy that's just going to sell me stuff. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 i need somebody who works with me, tdd# 1-800-345-2550 speaks a language i understand, tdd# 1-800-345-2550 and basically helps me make better decisions. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 maybe i'm still being naive? tdd# 1-800-345-2550 [ male announcer ] no hard sell. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 no attitude. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 no broker-speak. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 it's different when you talk to chuck. tdd# 1-800-345-2550 ♪
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welcome back to the "newsroom." here is some -- a look at other stories unfolding right now. first the president.
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we mentioned the possibility yesterday, now we know officially he's cutting his visit to indonesia short. the problem? all that volcanic ash from mt. merapi which could very much so ground air force one. so the schedule has been tweaked just a little bit. mr. obama and indonesia's president did talk to reporters earlier today and one of the topics was trade. take a listen. >> we are looking to expand our trade and investment and commercial relationships because it can create prosperity in both our countries. trade between us is growing fast. that includes american exports to indonesia. and that's why indonesia is one of the growing markets that we're going to be focused on as part of my initiative to double u.s. exports. >> we should mention the president not leaving indonesia yet. he still has plans to go to an official dinner and give a speech at the university of indonesia.
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69 kids are safe today and nearly 900 people are under arrest in this nationwide crackdown on child sex trafficking. the feds apparently targeted 40 cities across the country. the raids lasted three days ended this past sunday. the largest number 16 rescued in seattle. and in middle tennessee 29 people are under arrest accused of trafficking underage somali girls. what is this streaking across the sky? this is off the southern california coast. it's beautiful. looks kinds of cool. but here's the thing. nobody knows who launched it. people at the pentagon shrugging their shoulders. no idea. but they also say it doesn't actually look like a military missile. one analyst tells us he thinks it was just a streak of condensed air from a commercial airliner. it looks like it's coming out of
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a gruesome home invasion shattered the petit family leaving only the father alive to see justice finally served. just yesterday a jury sentenced steven hayes to death for those crimes. and coming up next, one of the jurors, one of those 12 will speak with me live here about making that ultimate decision and we will speak with the grieving family. that's next. car, out of the very best america had to offer. ingenuity. integrity. optimism. and a belief that the finest things are the most thoughtfully made -- not the most expensive. today, the american character is no less strong. and chevrolet continues as an expression of the best of it. bringing more technology to more people than ever in our history. inventing new ways to get around our planet while preserving it at the same time. exploring new horizons of design and power. and making our vehicles amongst the safest on earth.
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jurors in connecticut took all of five hours to find steven hayes guilty but they took four days to decide he should die for a terrifying home invasion that ended in the triple murders of a connecticut mother and her two young daughters. what was it like in that jury room? what went into the decision to
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sentence a man to death? i will ask one of the jurors about that in just a moment here. but first randi kaye is going to take us back through the evidence in this particularly brutal crime. >> in the trial of steven hayes, it was never a question of guilt or innocence. it was simply a question of whether or not hayes should die for his crime. a prominent connecticut family held hostage and terrorized in their home. dr. william petit nearly beaten to death with a baseball bat. his wife jennifer hawke-petit sexually assaulted and strangled by steven hayes. their children haley and michaela left to die in a fire. from day one the defense attorney said his client killed mrs. hawke-petit but then spent the last few weeks trying to save his life. the jury sentenced him to death anyway. this may be why. the durption of the crime seven hours during which plls hawke-petit was forced to
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withdraw $15,000 from the family's bank account. this bank security camera video was played for the jury. it shoals her desperate attempt to save her family, way was tied up just three miles away. the video was recorded just 40 minutes before her murder. it wasn't just how long this family was held but the sheer brutality of the attack. >> the beating of dr. petit. the fact that an 11-year-old girl was tortured, was sexually assaulted, was killed, that evidence was just so, so heinous that i believe that is what really tipped the balance in favor of the death penalty here. >> reporter: there were also crime scene photographs. a mother's body burned beyond recognition. haley, 17, found at the tom of the stairs. michaela, 11, found still tied to her bed. both girls died from the smoke. jurors also viewed text messages sent from hayes to the other
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suspect, joshua komisarjevsky just before the home invasion. those also weighed heavily on the jury. hayes wrote, i'm chomping at the bit to get started. need a margarita soon. komisarjevsky responded i'm putting kid to bed, hold your horses. hayes, dude, the horses want to get loose, lol. >> that was significant. and i recall looking over at the jury and they were glaring at steven hayes when that evidence was on the projector. >> reporter: and there was this surveillance video of hayes at a gas station buying the gasoline that was later poured throughout the house and on the victims. the jury was also convinced steven hayes had every opportunity to walk away. >> he left the house to buy gasoline. he left the house with mrs. petit. they left the house to park their car somewhere else. time and time again he had the opportunity to not be involved in these murders, and he never walked away.
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>> reporter: as the death sentence was read in court, steven hayes staired straight ahead and smiled. his lawyer says hayes is happy with the sentencing. so full of remorse, steven hayes wants to die. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> diane kind, one of the seven women and five men who decided whether steven hayes should live or die. we just heard the piece. it was a trial of torture, sexual assault, murders, bodies burned. how did you get through it? it must have been very emotional for you? >> oh, it was extremely emotional. we looked at the photos and we -- when i looked at the photos of the girls and mrs. petit, i hugged the photos and then i looked at dr. petit and i looked at the family. and i -- the pain -- their pain became my pain. okay. their pain became our pain. and all twelve us tried to keep
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our emotions in check because we knew that we had to make a decision here on a man's life. and it was very, very difficult for us. >> and you made two decisions essentially it looked like at the trial. you had to decide whether or not he was guilty on "x" number of counts -- i think it was 16 out of 17 that he was guilty and ultimately you had to decide whether steven hayes should live or die. it took you a couple of hours after the trial but took you going into the fourth day of deliberations to decide he should be put to death. why did it take into the fourth day? >> well, first of all, we had some difficulty understanding the procedures that were involved in -- the paperwork and the procedures that we had to follow for each count. and that's why it took us a day and we asked two questions for clarification. based on the material and the information that was provided by
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judge blue. you have to understand this jury was highly intelligent. we had someone -- we had a graduate from m.i.t. i have two matters degrees. there was another with a masters degree. >> highly intellectual crowd poring through every detail. >> right. >> when you finally though decided death on six counts for mr. hayes, what was that like, having someone's life in your hands? >> well, these are our choices, okay. we took a look at all the evidence. we also pulled the evidence apart. we had to differentiate between who was -- who was telling the truth, who was more credible. and that's where we used our intellectual prowlness in differentiating and making the decision. each count we had to follow a procedure.
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there were safeguards in each count. and we must -- and we had to reach consensus. and in reaching consensus, we could not move on to the next part of the paperwork and bringing us close to the death penalty. yes. >> i see. >> on that decision. >> and you finally came to your decision. i have two questions. we're going to go to break. but want you to think about this. my two questions being the fact that mr. hayes -- steven hayes is apparently happy he'll be put to death. number two i want to talk to you have about dr. petit who appeared so stoic through this whole ordeal. i'm robert shapiro.
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i want to pick up where we left off with deborah keim. he killed mrs. pettiit and her o daughters. when you heard he was happy about being put to death, what
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do you think about that? >> i don't think he was happy. i think what he was happy about -- it wasn't so much being put to death. he doesn't want to be in ice lalgs. that's greater punishment for him. you have to understand if he had life in prison, all right, that would be going home for him. he's spent 25 a years being incarcerated in the prison, but he was in the general population, and, you know, he could socialize with his peers, his prison mates, he had a job. >> he will not get to go back to that. >> he will not. he is on death row. >> that is correct. that is correct. >> yes, that is correct. >> also let me ask you about dr. petit. he's the man who appeared so stoic, diane. he lost his wife and two young daughters in the brutal home invasion, sex assault, murder, what was it like speaking with him when you finally got to go into the basement, you and the rest of the jurors to say hello?
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what did you say to him, and what did he say back? >> well, first of all the whoa petit family was there, and meeting the whole family, i could see how dr. petit, his wife and children had such strength of character. the whole family has strength, the whole family has courage. to hug him, which is something i wanted to do throughout the whole trial if i could somehow take his pain away, when we met him and met the family, i felt that we did something to help take some pain away. whatever we could do. >> you mentioned -- you know, diane, you mentioned the family. we're fortunate enough to have cindy hawke rehn. what message may you have for her and what message may you have for your the jurors who could be listening? >> as i said earlier today i'd
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really like to thank you as my parents richard and mary, we really appreciated all that you guys did. we know you had to be very brave in seeing all the information that you saw, and looking at the pictures that you saw, and i'm sure that was embedded in your mind almost like it was in ours. i know it wasn't an easy job and we really appreciate what you guys did. >> diana -- she says thank you. i think we were struck when we watched dr. petit speaking outside the courtrooms and a reporter was asking does this bring you closure. he spoke about, no, it doesn't. let's play the sound bite where he references this huge hole in his heart and i'll get you to respond on the other side. >> you know, the way i've imagined this day through, it's a hole with jagged edges, an over time the edges may smooth out a little bit but the hole in your heart and the hole in your
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soul is still there, so there's never closure. >> cindy, i imagine you have a large hole in your heart as well. jennifer was your only sister. how do you cope? >> one of the things i try to do is i look for sisters everywhere i can. i have a lot of friends and co-workers and distant relatives, cousins that have become like sisters to me now. there's no replacing a sister, but there are certainly sisters you can put around you to help uphold you. i feel also a huge loss in my life not because my sister's gone o but because my only two nieces and himy husband's only o nieces are gone. all their cousins wir taken away from them. >> you mention michaela and
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hayley and jennifer. we've been flaling the trial and there's so much focus. if you could take a moment and talk about how they lived. how should we be remembering these three women? >> you know, my sister was a great christian woman. she tried very hard to give her children the greatest upbringing she could with wonderful morals and values. you know, she taught all of us so much just from being a nurse and being as kind-hearted as she was to all of our family members who were ever ailing with anything. >> she was there. >> to students that she taught that, you know, also needed her nursing advice at times. she just was -- radiated. she was full of love and, you know, i would say she was such an elegant person to be around and i loved it when she walked
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into a room, just to see her move with such poise and grace, and she had a lot of class, but she was very humble about it. >> she had class, she was humble. cindy, really my final question is you remember your family here. we've been talking to diane about ultimately this verdict, the fact that steven hayes will be put to death. do you feel like justice has been served? >> if he really is put to death i might feel like justice was served one day, although i know there isn't a closure in anything like this, and even if he is put out of this world peacefully with an injection in his arm, my pain doesn't end, and think justice has been served, but i don't know that there truly is anything just when something like this happens. >> cindy hawke rehn and diane keim, ladies, i think you both. >> thank you. >> we're going to be back in a moment with some breaking news
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all right. cnn has all your latest political news with the best political television. wolf blitzer is at the cnn.com desk and, wolf, i hear you're getting new information, a new poll regarding the new jersey governor. what do you have? >> chris christie is very popular. according to this poll, they don't want him, the folks in new jersey, to run for president yet. not yet. he's indicated he has no plans on running for president, even though the republicans love him, a lot of conservatives love him because of the very strong stance he's taking on cutting the new jersey budget in the face of a democratic controlled legislature. this new poll says 51% of new jersey voters approve of the job he's doing. that's a higher job aproovlg job
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than president obama has right now, but at the same time they say he should not necessarily run for president right now. they don't think he's ready to run for president right now. they're very happy he's still governor of new jersey and apparently he's going to stay governor of new jersey for the time being. that doesn't say maybe he couldn't be tapped as a vice-presidential running mate. there's been some speculation about that. but right now he's the governor of new jersey. we're going to talk -- you'll be interested in this -- with two other rising stars in the republican party in "the situation room," michele bachmann the republican congresswoman from minnesota and rand paul elected from kentucky. they're boe they're both going to be joining with me. rand paul is being criticized at least right now has he flip-flopped on whether he supports banning all earmarks. there was some confusion as a result of an interview. he clarifies exactly where he
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stands on earmarks in the interview that you will see with me in "the situation room," and we've got a lot to discussion with michele bachmann as well. she wants a leadership job in the new republican controlled majority in the house, but there's an opposition to her from some of the established republican leaders. we'll pick her brain on that as well. so it's going to be a strong two hours in "the situation room," and i know i can always count on you, brook, to watch. >> of course. michele bachmann and rand paul, i am there. wolf blitzer, i am there. we'll get another update in a half hour. go to cnn.com and on twitter at political ticker. right now i want to welcome the men and women watching us on american forces around the world. top of the hour. we're going to hit you fast. begin the rush hour. first, the president. president obama cutting his trip to indonesia short. the problem, the volcanic ash. i'm talking about mt. merapi
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which could be grounding air force one. he did speak to reporters earlier today. one of the major topics was trade. the prot not finished with indonesia yet. also to give a speech to the university of join e nisha and then on to korea and the g-20 summit. next, five children, brothers and sisters die in a house fire. rescuers manage to pull two girls out through the window but they died at the hospital. three boys were trapped inside as the fire tore through that home. the children's mother and grandmother did manage to escape as did an aunt who suffered severe burns. neighbors, they picked up the phone and called 911 when they heard the woman screaming. >> and i told my husband i think the neighbors are in trouble. when i hit my front door, the whole front of the house was engulfed in flames and i heard the mom saying my babies, my babies are inside.
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it's very, very sad. my kids play with them. >> they're looking at the possibility that a space heater in the living room caused that fire. next, a not guilty plea from a pakistani born u.s. citizen attempting to help al qaeda bomb the d.c. metro system. he was arrested last month after being targeted in a federal sting operation. the people he thought were al qaeda operatives really undercover police officers. in court today he requested a jury trial. that should begin in april. next, take a look at this pretty picture with me. i'm loving this today. this is a possible missile. could it be a rocket streaking across the southern sky in california? here's the thing. nobody knows who launched it. people at the pentagon have no idea. but they also say it actually doesn't look like a military miss i. in fact one analyst thinks it
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could be a streak of condensed air from a commercial airliner and the fact that it's coming out of the sea because it's flying over the horizon. next some details to tell you about the case of the atlanta area church leader eddie long. i know you remember the story. here he is. long is accused of coercing young men into sexual relationships. now the new birth missionary baptist church is acknowledging the youths went on trips with the pastor, they did say, and he shared hotel rooms with members of the congregation, but the church says it cannot con girl or deny whether anything inappropriate happened. now former ceo tony hayward speaking out for the first time since he stepped down from that top post. he is telling the bbc that the company was basically, quote, making it up day to day at the begins of the disaster. hayward says bp was not prepared to deal with all that media
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attention. look at that crush of cameras there. and he said he doesn't regret taking time off in the middle of the crisis to go yachting. he said he had not seen his son for three months and needed some time off. next, forget everything you've heard about charlie sheen's wild and crazy night at the plaza last month. it's been blown out of p proporti proportion. at least that's what he's saying. he had one bad night. he was angry that someone stole a watch while the porn star hid out in the bathroom. he ended up in the hospital that night. next, it is a sad, sad day for happy meal lovers in san francisco. in a couple of hours the board of supervisors would ban toys from his little fast food meals that don't meet certain nutritional requirements.
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last week it passed with just enough margin to survive a veto from the mayor. the ordinance would go into effect next september. next a florida man set as record with a pretty big gay gay tore. 14-foot record. look at this. 648 pounds. he's over 14 feet long. he's tipping the scales with that. he caught the giant gator a week ago on the last tay of florida's alligator harvest. did you know they had that in florida? yes, they do. he beat the state's previous record in 1977 when a trapper caught a slightly, slightly smaller gator. listen to this. pretty compelling pictures here. these are students fighting against police in colombia. explosives, pomolotov cocktails.
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we'll tell you this unbelievable story. that's ahead. imagine you're va-ocation and suddenly it loses power. thousands are stranded. that nightmare, far from over.
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imagine you finally got some time off. you will hop on this cruise ship. you think, hey, it's going to be great. i'm going to take a vacation an suddenly you're onboard and you hear about a fire in the engine room. what does that mean to you? no power. we're talking hours with no air
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conditioning, no working toilets, yikes, no hot food among other issues you're dealing with. that actually happened. it's still stranded off the coast of western mexico. chad myers has been looking into this whole thing. i cannot imagine. but at least some good news and i say that half facetiously is that at least the backup power is on so they can have cold water and flush the toilet. >> they have water pressure. >> that's where they are. >> lower your standards all the way to water pressure but that's better -- at least it's sanitary. before that was like those eight hours of a plane sitting on the tarmac with a bathroom that's not running. so they're not there anymore, but they're not going to get power back to that new jerseeng. they're going to have to be tugged back to insana da. it's not going to be very fast.
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this ship was built in 2008, so this isn't some old random old rickety thing. >> a nice, new shiny boat. >> brand-new engine room, brand-new everything. could be user error. could be all kinds of things that could be wrong. 68,000 horsepower to move this ship at 20 miles per hour. >> what does that mean? >> that's a lot of horsepower. that's an awful lot of mustangs trying to drag this thing. and tug boats don't have that kind of power. they're not going to get this thing up on -- this thing is going to be one slow boat to mexico for the next couple of days. >> this is 3,300 passengers, 1,100 crew members, a lot of people stuck. >> and they were only out of port for a couple of days -- a day when it happened. it came out of long beach and they ended up here. they were supposed to have two nice fun days on the fun ship before they got down to ma
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mazatlan, so they are about 250 miles or sore from san diego but not that far from ensenada. i went to the website this showed the location of the ship before it stopped running and transmitting and it seemed like it was only about 60 miles away from shore and if the tug can pull it three to four knots, not much more than that -- the allure of the seas, royal caribbean is only 200 feet longer. here we go. here's the beautiful boat. here it is. built in italy. state rooms with views. interior state rooms as well. here's the bridge. do you remember carnival, the ecstasy? i think this was in 1998. left miami, couple days, a half
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a day out and the engine room wasn't on fire but the laundry caught on fire. they had like sheets in the laundry and they caught on fire and it put the boat completely out of commission. they had to drag those people back as well. now, they're going to get their money back and a new free cruise but you're not going to get another free week of vacation from your boss. once you used your week up, you're done. >> what about supplies? i heard the u.s. ronald reagan will get there. when -- >> already been there. >> got the supplies. >> yes. you would think that cruise ships grab all their stuff and they load it up in l.a. and miami and that's it and they're done, that's all the stuff they need. but, in fact, that's not what they do. they load from other ports as well if the ports don't make them buy some things from their ports. you always see things getting loaded on from ports whether it's fresh fruit or whatever it might be. the problem -- and i'm
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wondering -- if there wasn't power to the engines, do we have power to the refrigeration to keep that fresh fruit fresh, to keep those frozen things frozen? >> i don't know. i don't know. >> i don't know. we don't have any i-reports from them because we believe they're too far out to sea. >> wait for it. wait for it. we'll get them. >> and no one has sent us one by $7-a-minute satellite phone. >> so the fun boat, not so much, not so much. i know you're a cruiser. >> i have been on dozens. i've never had that kind of experience. >> thank goodness. >> i have wiped down boat -- a core on the worth of lysol wipes, wiped down my entire boat. i'm aaphobegermaphobe. >> you are? >> i am. >> i'm shocked. not so much fun, the fun boat. the former president bush said he would order the use of
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waterboarding again adding that it saves lives. now there's breaking new wls the justice department will look to bring charges against anyone involved there. that is next. plus, she can negotiate peace deals but how does hillary clinton negotiate takeout orders? it's a sale. nothing beats a sale! wrong move! you. you can save up to half off that sale when you name your own price on priceline. but this one's a deal...trust me. it's only pretending to be a deal. here, bid $79. got it. wow! you win this time good twin! there's no disguising the real deal.
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well, as you surely know former president bush has a book out there, making his rounds, promoting it. he's talking most recently we'ven bn hearing about waterboarding, simulated drowning. was it legal and did it help pry
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information out of terrorists? mr. bush was asked that in an interview with matt lauer. said find out what he knows. said to our team, are the techniques legal? and a legal team says, yes, they are. i said use them. >> why is waterboarding legal in your opinion? >> because the lawyer said it was legal. they said it -- >> you said it's legal and the lawyered told me. >> yeah. >> critics say you got the justice department to give you the legal guidance and memos that you wanted. the head of the 9/11 commission, they said they got legal opinions they wanted from their own people. >> he obviously doesn't know. i hope he reads the book. that's why i wrote the book. i can tell you this. the techniques saved lives. my job was to protect america,
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and i did. >> now, if mr. bush seems certain that waterboarding worked, that is something that's still in dispute, but he reminded matt lauer of all of the terrorists his administration questioned only three were waterboarded and he was also asked about wmds and he said, quote, it was sickening not to find weapons of mass destruction his administration claimed were in iraq. secretary of state hillary clinton making a three-day diplomatic trip to australia over the past weekend. her schedule pretty busy including meeting the prime minister and also being interviewed be a comedy duo, two australians known for prank interviews on the radio show and they began by presenting the america's top diplomat with a gift. let's watch. >> we start with a gift. it's potato chips. they invented it.
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it's the gravy chip. >> i am thrilled. i cannot tell you how much this means to me. >> are you a collector of chips? >> i'm a eater of chips. >> we recommend -- if you try to eat them, technically that's an assassination -- >> shall i wait till i'm out of australia and airspace? >> with a lot of foreign travel. your job you must get good at accepting gifts. >> i do. >> and making like you love them. >> exclusively it's a very happy expression on one's face. sometimes gifts are really hard to do one with? >> have you ever left one behind? >> no, no, we take them all. we do thank-you notes. you will get a thank-you note. >> it's not necessary. consider us thanked. >> a little bit of a sense of humor there, mrs. clinton. they interviewed the likes of john mayer and the dalai lama. take a look at this.
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angry students or are these urban terrorists? police in one south american city are not taking any chances. we're going to get the story behind this dramatic video next. [ advisor 1 ] what do you see yourself doing one week,
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riots in the streets. the haves and the have-nots is getting bigger and the new government is corrupt and doesn't care. karl penhaul takes us there. >> reporter: student barricades in the heart of bow ga ta's
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financial district. their protest against colombia's right wing government and free economic policies degenerates into clashes with riot police. the new government is backed by death squads, land rovers, state parties and terrorists. the student leaders say -- authorities say these student groups are urban terrorists. some claim loose allegiance to gur ril la groups. in the past we've been divided but today bogota student groups have come together to fight the power of multinationals and corrupt politicians, he says.
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these students say they wear masks so police don't hunt them down later. they argue their violence is symboli symbolic, but their homemade explosives and molotov cocktails are very real. police reported no injuries on either side, yet some neighbors were clearly annoyed. >> translator: i'm fed up of having my windows smashed, this woman says. on the political front, colombia's government has scored a string of major victories against once powerful gorilril guerilla forces. but the benefits aren't trickling down. the u.n. indicates that almost
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half of colombians are living below the line and they're the only country where the equal has increased in recent years. today left groups of young people fighting for radical democracy. we call to unite the people for peace and social justice, he says. demand demands that have exploded. karl penhaul, ccnn, bogota. she is revealing details that no one has ever heard before. elizabeth smart telling her story to a courtroom about her own kidnapping many years ago. what she kept telling herself in order to survive that hor iic yo ordeal. just in from the world of politics, your cnn political
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cnn has all your latest political news with the best political team on television, and that includes, of course, jessica allen. she has left her digs in d.c. for the lights of los angeles. let's talk. we're a week, exactly away from the midterms but still two house races remain unrevolved. >> reporter: that's right. this is actually my home state. i'm from los angeles. wouldn't you know it two of the seven house races that are unresolved nationally are right here in california. both of them, brooke, are in the central valley districts.
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leans conservative. it's been decimated by job losses and housing crisis. what that means fundamentally, neither of the winners will have much of a mandate. maybe they'll feel a little bit of pressure to work with the other party and compromise on some issues. we'll see. turning to another issue, alabama rupp congressman spencer bachman heard what you say in your district doesn't necessarily stay in your district. he said that sarah palin cost republicans the u.s. senate. now, he praised the tea party and he praised her generally for getting out the vote but he did say wouldn't you be surprise oed, not so much, that palin hit back on twitter saying first of all she won more of her endorsements than she lost and her aide said, look, we weren't going to get the senate anyway
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and the classic quote, deal with it, beltway gop. i'm sure more are going to be getting that when they attack her. i should say his office insists it was not an attack. >> uh-huh. >> finally. kim kardashian, what am i going to stay about her? she's hit the diplomatic page in the most unusual way. secretary of state hillary clinton you played video of her? they actually asked her do you think the u.s. is sporting cultural material that miss represent as what the u.s. is really all about? for example keeping up with the kardashians and kim kardashian. secretary clinton in an amazing loose and sort of appearance there knew who kim kardashian was and immediately said, you know, based on that, you might think americans spend the day wrestling and wearing bikinis.
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that was a pretty funny note. and she promised a thank-you note for the bag of potato chips. she has a funny side. >> it's nice to see it. it's nie to see the secretary of state's humor as well. enjoy your home state. we'll get another political update in the next hour. you can get all the latest political news go. to cnn.com and the political ticker. with that a tough story right around the corner. a single mother loses her only son after he was beaten to death at a party just two days ago. what happened to this young man, how is that mother now coping, and why did she want to sit down with me two days after her son's death? we're going to hear her honest and emotional interview here in the studio next. this software that can simulate head injuries and helps make people safer.
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there are some new developments today in the stomping death of a teenager. it's been confirmed he was stomped and beaten so hard one of his own bones broke and punctured his heart. he was just 18 years of age. he was killed simply because he was in the wrong place. what was supposed to be a party with fewer than a dozen kids apparently he was there at the wrong time. after this party basically exploded to at least 60 kids and he walked by just after a girl fight broke out. one of the girls hit a boy. a toz what happens next i'll hand it off to o douglas county
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sheriff phil miller. >> one made the statement they were going to beat up the next guy that showed up and this lootle 5'6100 pound kid with braces happened to come by. they beat him down on the ground and stomped him and killed him. >> again, that young man's name, bobby tillman. i spoke wu his mom. f she has a message for parents. there is a huge lesson in her son's senseless death. listen. >> we're looking at some pictures. this is a makeshift memorial at the house where he died. you and i have not been able to stop talking through this break because you were telling me how you lost your father two years ago and bobby became the man of the house and you're a single mother. to have this happen, you're sitting with me because you have a message to parents and the message is what, monique? >> the message is let's start from the root. to me, bobby is the end result. a death is the end result. we need to stop before it gets there. i want a law passed.
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i mean these guys, i want them to go away forever but let's stop before it gets to that, before it gets to death. my son died from bullying. if we can stop it before it gets there and help these children. it was rage, it was jealousy, it was pride. all these things in these boys to make them want to stomp my son and kill him? that's outrageous. how can someone have so much of that inside of them, especially someone that's not even 21 yet. they've lived only that long and have so much of that built up that they had to stomp my child. it has to be stopped. it's before. not once they're caught. because we can put everyone in jail. before. >> i saw the look in your eyes. roger, if we can pull up the video once again, the memorial at the home. i saw a look in your eyes almost like -- you had not seen those pictures yet. you had not seen the memorial. and so here it is. i mean looking -- you're looking at these signs for the first time. >> yes. >> a young man, your death was not the end.
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>> yes. i haven't -- i haven't been watching the news. i haven't been doing anything. it's just beautiful that everyone is pouring out all this love for bobby. >> you had to change churches, you're ving to go through the funeral arrangements. you had to change churches because of the outpouring. >> yes. >> tell us about the fund you set up. >> it's called the bobby tillman fund and it's through bank of america and we have been called or contacted with so many people wanting to contribute in some type of way. they wanted to give flowers or anything. we're just asking if they do just to give money to his fund because this fund is going to help -- we want to help children bobby's age or younger to stop with the rage or whatever they're feeling to where they have to bully and they have to hurt or take it out on someone else. let's see what it is so it can be help and it will help another
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child and another one and they won't go through what my son did. >> you're so strong and so put together in front of me. it's one of those situations where you think as a parent i'm not supposed to be burying my child. >> absolutely. i never thought -- my sister has been handling everything. i don't even -- i didn't know step one. i've never in my life imagined. this is the worst time in my life. this will be the worst time in my life. i never thought i would have to bury my child, never. i'm -- never thought that. >> what a tough interview, and i was inundated by tweets from you. a lot of you are very moved. i want to run through a couple of tweets to share them with our audience. watching your interview, just heartbreaking, his mother is so strong. i agree. very strong. also from stan, i can't believe that those teen teenage boys beat up that kid in atlanta. my heart bleeds for the mother and family. >> great interview with bobby's
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mom. suns such a senseless act. the four thugs should be put down. >> incredible interview. it's got to stop. kids killing kids. it's insane. parents have got to be involved. thank you so much for all your tweets. appreciate it. be right back. [ female announcer ] imagine the possibilities with stelara® for adults. stelara® helps control moderate or severe plaque psoriasis with 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. in a medical study, 7 out of 10 stelara® patients
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trending today. none other than conan o'brien. after nine months all of the coco fans got their wish. you know what?
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the show dived head first, answered the question on all of our minds. what has he been up to since his departure from nbc. stayed pretty busy. tried a couple of different careers. watch. funny stuff. >> we had an amazing guest. we had pearl jam. >> i don't care who you were. i asked for extra sweet and sour sauce a. . that's like seven forks, not sweet and sour sauce. >> first they said obama was a, then they say he was muslim. now they're saying he wasn't born in this country. it's got me thinking okay the guy might not be qualified to be president but he's qualified to drive a cab in new york city. >> here's your money. please go. >> it's supposed to be 30 bucks. >> i'll call the police.
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>> you want me to move the night show to 12:05? >> i don't care who you were. >> i'll call the police. >> you're very good looking. >> don't do it, conan. >> larry king? >> i'm your guardian angel. >> but you're not dead. >> never mind that. i have two words for you. basic cable. >> basic cable. >> conan, i think you'll find our terms very attractive. >> i think you have a deal. >> okay. that was funny, right? did you watch that last night? a lot of the larry king cameo.
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by the way, last night's numbers are in. the show was a huge hit, beating both letterman and leno. in fact, we got a tweet. breaking it down, look at numbers with me. here's what they're tweeting. last night's show was watched by 2.4 million adults. 3.2 demo in. and 4.1 million viewers total. hello. welcome back. wolf blitzer gets those kinds of ratings, of course. ...pure... and also delicious. ♪ like nature valley. granola bars made with crunchy oats and pure honey. because natural is not only good, it also tastes good. nature valley -- 100% natural. 100% delicious.
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how about this? gop lawmakers say sarah palin may be to blame for the republicans' failure to take back the senate. that's congress maman baccus wh said it would be if it weren't for tea party candidates, ones like the ones endorsed by sarah palin. in run-up to the elections, the republicans enjoy this whole tea party movement getting americans so fired up. but i'm curious if any of these republicans now are having buyer's remorse? >> i think there's certain buyer's remorse for the mainstream of the establishment of the republican party. they think that christine o'donnell was not necessarily the strongest republican candidate even though she was a great favorite of the tea party movement. mike castle had been elected several times, he would have
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been a stronger candidate. he could have easily, they say, peten chris coons, now senate. sang for sharron angle. they think that she was not necessarily the strongest republican that could have beaten harry reid, the senate leader. having said that, there's no doubt the tea party movement across the country energized the republican base, energized conservatives to go out and vote in big numbers, and they got a lot of people elected. rand paul in kentucky, for example, you know, he's going to be on my show in the next hour. he was elected in part because of that strong support he got from the tea party movement, marco rubio in florida. there were tea party candidates energized by the base, i think there's no doubt that this huge net gain for the republicans in the house of representatives, 60-plus seats, was in part fueled by a very aggressive and
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assertive tea party movement across the country. so it's a mixed bag. it's not as simple as saying they would have been in the majority if. it's always a monday morning quarterback, also easy to do than sunday morning quarterback. >> sure. and in terms of the stronger candidates who have been elected, republicans did osh could be put in a couple of females. you have the new le created freshman position, also michelle bachmann of minnesota running for caucus chair and you mentioned rand pal will be on your show. also bachmann joining you. >> o she's going to be live in the 6:00 p.m. eastern hour. we're going to talk to herb her fight to get this litership. jeff hensarling is about to get his sixth term. he's the number two one in the house. so there's going to be a battle between michelle bachmann and
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this texas congressman. we'll see who wins that fight. but she thinks she deserves it given the work she did on behalf of the tea party, on behalf of the republicans and conservatives. we'll get into that with her and a lot more. that's coming up in the situation. >> wolf, i can't let you go without asking when you'll be heading to the reagan airport. >> you'll have me tomorrow in atlanta a. it will be a fun day in atlanta. culminating tomorrow night, you know, with what? >> soul train, wolf blitzer. >> soul train. i'll be there in atlanta. i'll be making a special presentation. it will be a lot of fun. >> you're not giving up. you're not giving anything. all we know is you're giving this presentation. you're not -- >> the whole world will learn november 28 when it's televised on b.e.t. they'll see what happens at the awards but there will be a few thousand people at the soul train awards. >> word will get out. we welcome you with open arms
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down here in atlanta. can't wait to have you in the studio. >> thanks. >> it's been eight years since a man kidnapped elizabeth smart from her own bedroom but the memories of those days are still so have vivid and haunting. she's sharing her story, finally telling her story to jurors.
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in salt lake city in a courtroom there elizabeth smart is finally telling her own stories in details that will most definitely shock you and also break your hart. smart testifying here, day two in the trial of her accused kidnapper brian david mitchell. he's the man accused of abducting her out of her own bedroom eight years ago. even the defense team admits he did it but they say he's insane and just yesterday smart told some jurors about waking up with a knife to her neck -- imagine. she was terrified. but that was just the beginning
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of her nightmare. jean casarez is following the trial in salt lake for our sister network "in session" on trutv. she said she could have been rescued when the detective was out looking for her. >> reporter: that was something. she was so angry with herself. why hadn't she had the strength and courage? they had upper camps an lower camps. one time they came down into salt lake city. they went to the library because mitchell said he had been divinely touched that he had to have seven wives in seven cities so he needed to go to the library to get a map. they were at the library and a homicide detective came up to them. remember, they've got their robes, they've got their veils, but her eyes showed and the homicide detective looked into her eyes and said i think you're elizabeth smart. and mitchell was standing right there.
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he said, no, no, no, no, no. this is our religion. you cannot come to us. he said, can i take your veil off? >> he said, no, only your husband. you violated our relesion. the homicide detective said can i be part of your religion for one day and take the veil off and tell them it's not elizabeth smart? that's when they decided they had to move to san diego. that's when they took a greyhound bus to san diego and set up camp. >> it was that close at that point in time. i guess when she told the detective, she said she felt like hope was walking away. jean, i also want to talk about this whole ordeal. she was with him at these camps. she talked about the way she tried to keep some sense of her family close to her even in the middle of this situation like keeping the safety pen from her pajama top or a piece of her shoe with her. >> reporter: that was unbelievable.
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she said at one point mitchell said she had to get rid of any possession with that she had. all she came in was her tennis shoes and red pajamas, so she ripped something from her shoes because the souls were coming off anyway and kept the red rubber but burned the pajamas and she saw the safety pin that it didn't burn so she picked the safety pin up and put it through the rubber of the shoe and kept it. well, mitchell found it several months later and he made her get rid of it. >> i know this is day two and some of these details are eme e emerges as she's taking to the stand. let's go to yesterday. that's when we heard how the whole thing was down. she's 14 in her own bedroom. her sister was asleep nearby when she was kidnapped. go through the description as to what happened. >> reporter: well, she woke up and there was a man at w a knife to her throat. he said don't say a word because if you do i will kill you and your family, but he said, we're going to go to your closet.
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you get the sturdiest shoes you can. let me stop here for a second. you see, the federal prosecutors want to show everything he did knowing what he did with his premeditated plan. that's very important. you get the sturdiest shoes you can. he led her out of the house through the hills. she went into the tent, he hugged her like she'd known him for years, got a bucket of hot water, washed her feet. told her to take her pajamas off and put on a robe. she said he's going to do it. he proceeded to come into the tent and sexually assault her for the first time which added up to the three or four times a day for nine months. >> jean, 30 seconds. i just have to ask about the defense. i know they're not disputing these stories but they're also going out and saying he's not guilty by

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